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wormscoffer

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« le: 19 janvier 2019 à 10:01:14 »
Hello Everyone

(Google translate  :-\ - English below)

J'essaye de remplacer ma boîte de Bouygues 4G et mini libre avec un 2862Ln de Draytek et tandis que le 4G fonctionne bien je ne peux pas obtenir le VDSL pour se connecter. J'ai utilisé l'excellent guide sur ce site et ont le MAC de la mini libre et tout semble comme il se doit, mais mon routeur ne pas obtenir une adresse IPV4 (ou V6 en fait) de la DSLAM. La synchronisation fonctionne et je peux voir les chiffres en amont et en aval)

A quelque chose a changé avec le service gratuit que j'ai besoin de mettre à jour les paramètres?

Merci beaucoup à l'avance.

Andrewu

I'm trying to replace my Bouygues 4G box and Free Mini with a Draytek 2862Ln and while the 4G is working fine I can't get the VDSL to connect. I've used the excellent guide on this site and have the MAC of the Free Mini and all seems as it should but my router does not get an IPV4 address (or V6 actually) from the DSLAM. The sync is working and I can see upstream and downstream figures)

Has something changed with the Free service that I need to update the settings?

Many thanks in advance.

Andrew

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« Réponse #2 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 12:53:41 »
I'd  suggest to check if you don't happen to have a firewall rule blocking inbound DHCP Offers.

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« Réponse #3 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 13:12:58 »
In first, can you check on your customer interface (free.fr) on which type of DSLAM you're*** ?



By the way, i saw that your copper line is synchronized on a 17M/1M bandwidth, this looks like a ADSL2+ line capacity, can you check the line distance too ?

If you need to force the ADSL2+ protocol (it should be better for the stabilisation of the link) check this out :





***: The tutorial that you read is only for DSLAM in IPv4 (IPv4/IPv6 DualStack) and not for the new DSLAM IPv6 only ( IPv6 connection via a tunnel with a IPv4 at the end with limited ports, that you can set in Full Stack mode to get your own IP address and not shared ports)

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« Réponse #4 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 13:47:05 »
Thanks for the (English) replies.

I can read/talk French to a satisfactory level but not write.

The router is new and has had no firewall rules added. The only active one I can see is the default NetBIOS block. Besides, the LTE is getting an address using DHCP so think that's OK.

I see the following in the syslog :

 2019-01-19 13:36:49
 WAN1 DHCP ==>XID = 0x7b92c829, Client IP = 0.0.0.0, Your IP = 0.0.0.0, Next server IP = 0.0.0.0, Relay agent IP = 0.0.0.0, Option:

If I force the line to ADSL2+, it takes a long time to connect and occasionally fails. If it does connect, WAN1 is shown as connected but without and IP address.

More info :

Votre offre :
Freebox dégroupé total (sur numéro inactif)
Identifiant technique de ligne ADSL : 0549XXXXXX
Raccordée actuellement en offre : Dégroupage total NDI
NRA : CIV86
Longueur : 1358 mètres
Affaiblissement : 20 dB
Adresse IP : 82.64.XXX.XXX (static IP)
Votre ligne permet de bénéficier des services de Télévision de la Freebox


Thanks again for the assistance.

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« Réponse #5 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 14:03:10 »
That's what I feared, you're on an IPv6 DSLAM (CIV86) is the name of the central office with the number of the department where you're currently.

This new Free DSLAM are deployed since 2017 on each new central office that France Telecom/Orange open to the other ISP for unbundled access.

So, for this one, you need to mount a IPIPv6 tunnel (i pretty sure that your actual modem/router doesn't support this protocol).

The solution will be to put the Free Mini in bridged mode, and to configure the Draytek as a DHCP client on the port WAN and no longer on the xDSL port.

Just for information, a line with 1353 meters isn't good for VDSL (max. 900m), but if you want to keep VDSL, as you wish.

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« Réponse #6 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 14:16:47 »
Oh dear!

My end goal here is to have the LTE and xDSL on the same gateway so I can load balance and selectively route (kids <-> work)  :)

If I change to another ISP would that be the same?

I'll maybe also look to see if there are any routers that support VDSL/IPV6 and LTE on the same unit.

Cheers.

Andrew
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« Réponse #7 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 14:19:38 »
Be advised, it's a IPIPv6 tunnel not just a IPv6 modem/router compatibility.

IPIPv6 is most present on router only and not modem/router combo.

If you really want skip through the Free Mini, you need to buy a modem and a router separately.

Configure the modem as a Bridge, and a router as a endpoint who mount the IPIPv6 tunnel.

Free is only the one who uses this method on his new DSLAM.

Mikrotik support IPIPv6 tunnel protocol and LTE too.
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« Réponse #8 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 14:38:15 »
I see this on the documentation but judging from your last reply it's irrelevant:


The Vigor 2862 supports IPv6 - the successor to the current IPv4 addressing system that has been used since the Internet was first created. IPv4 address space is full up and IPv6 allows for much more efficient routing and a larger address space. IPv6 is supported both from your own ISP, but if your ISP does not (yet) support IPv6, the Vigor 2862 also supports IPv6 broker/tunnel services to provide IPv6 access using either TSPC or AICCU via 3rd party IPv6 providers.

Thanks for time and expertise Aize147. I have plenty to think about now.

Cheers

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« Réponse #9 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 15:01:46 »
If you want to keep your actual material, you can change your ISP for Sosh (Orange/France Telecom network) because they have PPPoE compatibility (DHCP too but there are somes options that somes routers doesn't support, like option 90 or 11).

The only operators where you aren't engaged for 1 year are :

Sosh
RedBySFR
Free (depends of the subscription)

I hope you're not engaged, else if you want to leave Free for another one you'll pay fees for the remaining months.

Bouygues Telecom is good too in xDSL but it's with commitment on 1 year.
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« Réponse #10 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 18:53:53 »
I do need to keep the Draytek. It's an NFR/Demo unit that I can't sell.  I have looked at the Mikrotik website and it looks very interesting but that's for another time.

I've had my Free contract for over a year so am happy to change ISP. I need a fixed IP (V4) address as I have remote access to systems that need a static address.

So, if you don't mind me asking is there one ISP I should choose over the others? I don't mind contracting for a year.

:)

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« Réponse #11 le: 19 janvier 2019 à 19:06:08 »
Well, i recommend Sosh, but you don't have a static address on it, if you shutdown the PPPoE session the IP will change. Can you use a DynDNS ?

You'll not get a IPv6 address in PPPoE, maybe you can get it by a DHCP client on the PPPoE interface, but i'm not sure.

The others ISP aren't in VDSL2 on your central office (only Orange/Sosh and Free).