Auteur Sujet: La fibre Orange à 2Gbps, sur un routeur MikroTik 10Gbps CCR2004, via un ONT SFP+  (Lu 944271 fois)

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cetipabo

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and by the way are you selling to customers like us ? or only to business ?

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I'm also following Marcin's ONT with great interest.

For info, I had success using a TX-6610 to replace a livebox5 with the following settings (not 2.5Gbps, but an external ONT with lots of modifiable settings nevertheless):

  • VLAN mode: Control by OLT
  • Updated SN
  • Updated ONT version, Main and standby software version, Equipment ID.
  • A few other settings - I will come back to update

I can also post the vlan in/out tagging table that the "Control by OLT" mode generates. Then in OPNsense I just simply follow all the other tutorials here for catching the vlan 832 frame as the WAN connection.

The idea was to copy as many parameters as possible from the Livebox 5 ONT to the TPLink to make it look like an Orange box to an outside observer checking the upstream OLT.
You can see some screenshots here from another thread: https://lafibre.info/routeur/tuto-remplacer-le-modem-de-loperateur-maroc-telecom-par-un-ont-tp-link/

Thanks,
Marek
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marcinkuczera

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ok, my knowledge seems to be much better, and I also understand your motivation to replace Orange ONU with own device.

2 important elements:
- most of people need just 1x1G ONT, that will help them to connect own router/home infrastructure, but in "a simple way"***
- some more geeky geeks need 1x2.5G ONT that will utilize 2000/600 service

In general, to make it a "black box", so user don't have to think about vlan id, pbit (cos) for DHCP or dhcp options, that requires:
- modification of OMCI stack, to enforce untagging operation on LAN port. Normally OLT (central device) sends information about VLAN ID on user port, that needs to be overwritten with "remove tag" operation.
- adding so called "trap to CPU" of DHCP request, to:
-- drop it later on towards operator network with proper Pbit (6)
-- add DHCP option parameters "on the fly"

all above is doable, but some of these options violate OMCI protocol, and I never needed options as above, as it is not necessary to cheat on this level if you control entire network ;)

For the moment, product that is available is LXT-010G-D (1x1G). Without modifications in code you can set lot of paramters you need to authorize device with Orange network.
And we can later on work on a code, that can be reused with 2.5G model (same main chipset) once it is available.

There is one unknown element for me - once you replace FunBox 5 that has built in GPON port - does it require different config than you replace older solution with separate ONT ?

About B2C sales, I need to check. B2B is available (VAT invoice, inter EU).


mishmash-

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- most of people need just 1x1G ONT, that will help them to connect own router/home infrastructure, but in "a simple way"***

...

For the moment, product that is available is LXT-010G-D (1x1G). Without modifications in code you can set lot of paramters you need to authorize device with Orange network.
And we can later on work on a code, that can be reused with 2.5G model (same main chipset) once it is available.


There are additional ONTs from other manufacturers at 1x1G too, however each with their own distinct disadvantages:
- Huawei models: need to be supplied and configured by Orange generally, I haven't seen much on the forum about self-configuring these. Seen a couple of posts about powersupply burnout.
- TX-6610: end of life model, firmware bug limits to 700/550, but lots of options for parameters and settings.
- Ubiquiti Nano G: allows 950/600, but does not have many parameters for modification. Does not work with Nokia/Alcatel OLTs.

Even if the 1x1G can deliver something without any of the disadvantages it could be a winner!

I'm moving to a new place over the next two weeks, I'm tempted to buy a 1x1G from xbest and report back my findings...

cetipabo

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- TX-6610: end of life model, firmware bug limits to 700/550, but lots of options for parameters and settings.
Bizarre, il est sensé délivrer 2.5Gbps : https://www.tp-link.com/fr/home-networking/pon-sfu-hgu/tx-6610/

mishmash-

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Oui, pour le porte GPON, parce-que c'est le norme GPON. Mais pour le RJ45 c'est 1000Mbps maxi.

marcinkuczera

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well, I like this forum, I can practice my poor french, at least reading ;)

You can buy LXT-010G-D from xBest, but I'am not sure if also B2B only is supported.
Then - with firmware - need to write to me, as I do all builds and code corrections.

Not all parameters are possible to be modified via webGui, some need CLI commands, I will help.

Refering to 3 ONTs mentioned:
- you can set all parameters, it is flexible - but for now, mostly CLI
- max speed on TCP level was about 942Mbit/s - iperf test.. So it is max (bit more when you add all headers)


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Well... seems everybody is moving on 2.5 Gbps ONU :D

A subscriber on my network is stressing a little bit the whole GPON port :D


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Well... seems everybody is moving on 2.5 Gbps ONU :D

A subscriber on my network is stressing a little bit the whole GPON port :D

It will happen, but in very short bursts. For other services as voip and iptv need to use proper QoS configuration, and all will work fine.
If GPON port will be overloaded - you can do 1:32 split.
It is still cheaper than migration towards XGSPON that will be (in my opinion) obsolete technology in few years, while GPON will still be in use ;)

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Hello Marcin,
I think that is very good news for "ONT switchers" to see at last a R9601C/D based device with a generic firmware.
Even if most of us are not so interested in breaking the 1G barrier.

Main interest of this RTK-based firmware is indeed the ease of modifying auth/OMCI related values, using "flash set/get" variables
compared to let's say to a very closed HG8010h firmware.
In case OLT enforces advanced checks, the R9601C will probably be the only option to mimic the original ONT registered by carrier.

We played some time ago with such SFP devices :
  • Opton GP801R / Vsol V2801F
  • Ubiquiti UF-instant
With the help of some material published by a malaysian user (Anime4000)
I managed to get the UF-instant working by mixing the two firmwares together.

The main disappointment was :
using R9601C based ONT on Orange FR network, it was definitely impossible to get the IPv6 working, no DHCPv6-PD response whatsoever.
I suspect a bug in R9601C manufacturer implementation / tweaking but it is very hard to talk to a qualified V-sol engineer.
Tried to tweak almost any accessible value on "diag" tool, with no success.

Let's say we order LXT-010G-D for testing, if we come accross this IPv6 / Orange FR bug as well, would you be able to dig into firmware (as you have SDK access) to see if it can be fixed ?

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Let's say we order LXT-010G-D for testing, if we come accross this IPv6 / Orange FR bug as well, would you be able to dig into firmware (as you have SDK access) to see if it can be fixed ?
Ok, we can try.

In general IPv6 works on LXT-010G-D at least with Nokia ISAM7360 (former Alcatel-Lucent) OLT. Quite popular, widely used by Orange as well as Huawei OLT.

And it is very rarely in fact fixing bugs, it is fixing issues related to non-standard provisioning from OLT side. The problem is, that each vendor does some little things in a different way - often violating standards - and this is where we specialize - adjusting ONTs to specific OLT requirements.

Your case is even more specific, but first - we can check what can be done in case of my "default" firmware.
"default" here means, that there is lot of modifications/patches applied to OMCI and IGMP + some little cosmetic changes in remaining part of SDK.


proap

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I forgot some options to add to be fully compliant with Orange in France :
- vlan 832
- Cos 6 for DHCP request and renew (IPv4 and IPv6)
- DHCP Options to sert (IPv4 : 60,61,77,90 with value and IPv6 : 11,15,16,17)

@Marcin, please keep in mind that the ONT should pass the other VLAN's traffic onto the router for the TV services for exemple