Auteur Sujet: Mise en route LEOX LXT-010H-D (Lu 74412 fois)

zoc · « **Réponse #84 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 08:31:42 »

Citation de: daleksek le 14 septembre 2022 à 16:09:08

Sur l'ancien Leox on peut gérer le CoS, DHCP 90, etc...?

C’est un ONT hein, pas un routeur. La CoS et DHCP c’est pas son job…

daleksek · « **Réponse #85 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 09:45:43 »

Citation de: zoc le 15 septembre 2022 à 08:31:42

C’est un ONT hein, pas un routeur. La CoS et DHCP c’est pas son job…

C'est ce qui me semblait, mais comme je voyais "manipulation de balises VLAN, classification et filtrage", je demandais au cas ou

Mackila · « **Réponse #86 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 10:42:10 »

A l'époque, quand Marcin était passé sur le forum, c'était la fête aux demandes qui ne sont pas du ressort "habituel" de l'ONT, pour palier au manque de possibilité de gérer les aspects irritants de la méthode d'authentification Orange. Donc peut-être que les fonctions ont été ajoutées, je verrai ça dans pas longtemps.

cyayon · « **Réponse #87 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 10:55:53 »

ONT commandé aussi.

j'espère que le port ethernet peut aussi se synchroniser en 1G.

une fois validé, je m'acheterais une carte ethernet 2x10G pour mon firewall

marcinkuczera · « **Réponse #88 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 12:19:18 »

Citation de: Mackila le 15 septembre 2022 à 10:42:10

A l'époque, quand Marcin était passé sur le forum, c'était la fête aux demandes qui ne sont pas du ressort "habituel" de l'ONT, pour palier au manque de possibilité de gérer les aspects irritants de la méthode d'authentification Orange. Donc peut-être que les fonctions ont été ajoutées, je verrai ça dans pas longtemps.

No, I did not. It is too much efforts to do it, especially when external routers can handle such changes.
In Poland, Orange users do not have do such tricks with DHCP, it just works (and in PL pppoe is used for internet).

Mackila · « **Réponse #89 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 12:54:37 »

Not a problem, now more and more routers can handle what is needed to work with Orange in France.
Nice to see you here

rooot · « **Réponse #90 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 13:02:51 »

@Marcin i sent you a PM about that but i post my message also here.
Without having to modify or update the firmware, is your ONU already able to detag the traffic received and send it to the router without the vlan tags ?

marcinkuczera · « **Réponse #91 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 14:18:56 »

Citation de: Mackila le 15 septembre 2022 à 12:54:37

Not a problem, now more and more routers can handle what is needed to work with Orange in France.
Nice to see you here

OLT (SFU - so L2 version) - does exactly what OLT want's it to do.
This is usually sent as ExtendedVlanTaggingOperationsCfg MIB.
You can see it with command:
omcicli mib get 171

So ONT will behave exactly same way, as OLT wants.
Remember, this is generally telco-controlled device, as a part of telco network. All private persons putting own ONTs are a bit intruders

In theory, it is possible to enforce untagging of particular vlan (and tagging in uplink direction) by violating OLT rules, but - this requires lot of precious time to implement and test.
And other issue is - that as a result you will loose pbit information (that is a part of VLAN tag).
And it might be difficult to do separate pbit with DHCP reqests and separate for normal traffic. That would require involvment of DSCP and - no way... even as for hobby.
It will be simpler if you use small, managed switch to remove tags.

rooot · « **Réponse #92 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 14:46:17 »

Citation de: marcinkuczera le 15 septembre 2022 à 14:18:56

It will be simpler if you use small, managed switch to remove tags.

haaa ! thank you ! that was the second question I was going to ask. Btw, wouldn't an unmanaged switch, which doesn't support vlan, would also remove the vlan tags?

marcinkuczera · « **Réponse #93 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 14:48:32 »

Citation de: rooot le 15 septembre 2022 à 14:46:17

haaa ! thank you ! that was the second question I was going to ask. Btw, wouldn't an unmanaged switch, which doesn't support vlan, would also remove the vlan tags?

No, but there are some small, simple 5 port (5x1Gbit) switches that can do vlan management.
More difficult to find small switch to untag traffic from 2.5GbaseT port.

hwti · « **Réponse #94 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 15:01:47 »

@marcinkuczera The issue here is with SFR, where the original ONT untags, so this is probably requested by the OLT.
Since there are ONT which have O5 but no traffic (and sometimes LAN connectivity issues), they might have issues mixing untagged traffic to/from GPON and management traffic.

I don't know if the internal switch of the ONT needs specific rules or not :
- both the LAN and CPU (management) port would be untagged
- the GPON port would either be untagged or tagged depending on where the untagging is done (in the switch or in the GPON part)
Broadcast from the LAN would need to be forwarded to both the CPU port (for ARP) and the GPON (for ARP and DHCP Request).

So maybe in some cases it might be easier to force the ONT to keep the VLAN (transparent mode), and to reconfigure the router to use a VLAN (ie different from the usual config created to work the the default ONT provided by SFR).

marcinkuczera · « **Réponse #95 le:** 15 septembre 2022 à 15:06:51 »

Citation de: hwti le 15 septembre 2022 à 15:01:47

@marcinkuczera The issue here is with SFR, where the original ONT untags, so this is probably requested by the OLT.

What is original ONT in this case ?

Citer

Since there are ONT which have O5 but no traffic (and sometimes LAN connectivity issues), they might have issues mixing untagged traffic to/from GPON and management traffic.

O5 does not mean that ONT is properly provisioned. I could say that O5 means "authorized".
But if ME171 is not configured by OLT, there will be definitelly no traffic.